Co-Constructing Explanations for AI Systems using Provenance
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Explanation is not a one off - it's a process where people and systems work together to gain understanding. This idea of co-constructing explanations or explanation by exploration is powerful way to frame the problem of explanation. In this talk, I discuss our first experiments with this approach for explaining complex AI systems by using provenance. Importantly, I discuss the difficulty of evaluation and discuss some of our first approaches to evaluating these systems at scale. Finally, I touch on the importance of explanation to the comprehensive evaluation of AI systems.
![Provenance is all you need!
def load_data(…):
input1 = pd.read_csv(…)
input1 = input1[input1[‘attr’] > 10]
input2 = pd.read_csv(…)
return input1.join(input2, …)
def featurise(…):
return ColumnTransformer(
[(‘categorical’), …, …)
(‘numerical’), …, …)])
all_data = load_(data)
train = all_data[all_data[‘date’] < …]
test = all_data[all_data[‘date’] >= …]
y_train = label_binarize(train[‘label’])
y_test = label_binarize(test[‘label’])
Pipeline = Pipeline([
(‘features’, featurise(…)),
(‘learner’, KerasClassifier(…))])
model = pipeline.fit(train, y_train)
quality = model.score(test, y_test)
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![▫ Metrics [1]:
▿ functionally-grounded - metrics that do require human feedback and measure
properties of the explanation (e.g. faithfulness - how accurately does the explanation
correspond to the thing being explained);
▿ human-grounded metrics - metrics that involve human participation either through
feedback, observation or proxy tasks (e.g. how interpretable is an explanation to an
end user);
▿ application-grounded - metrics that measure explanations through their usage in an
application (e.g. does the performance of the human-AI system improve on a
downstream task);
▫ Challenges:
▿ Interactivity
▿ Many personas
Evaluation of Explanations
[1] Gesina Schwalbe and Bettina Finzel. A comprehensive taxonomy for
explainable arti
fi
cial intelligence: a systematic survey of surveys on
methods and concepts. Data Mining and Knowledge Discovery,
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- 1. Co-Constructing Explanations for AI Systems using Provenance Prof. Paul Groth | @pgroth | pgroth.com | indelab.org Thanks to Jan-Christoph Kalo, Fina Polat, Shubha Guha, Enrico Daga XAI-KG Workshop - ESWC 2025
- 2. Explanations increasingly required for AI systems
- 3. “While the explanation process involves the assimilation of knowledge, it also transforms the learner’s knowledge and is thus an accommodative process. Thus, rather than referring to "explanations" (and assuming that the property of being an explanation is a property of statements), it might be prudent to refer to explaining, and regard explaining an active exploration process. ” 03.04.23 3 Explanation by Exploration or Self Explanation S.T. Mueller, R.R. Hoffman, W. Clancey, A. Emrey and G. Klein, Explanation in Human-AI Systems: A Literature Meta-Review, Synopsis of Key Ideas and Publications, and Bibliography for Explainable AI, arXiv, 2019. https://arxiv.org/abs/ 25 1902.01876
- 4. “The process of explaining, and human-human communication broadly, is a co-adaptive ‘tuning’ process, which requires that the explainer and learner have a capacity to take each other's perspective.” 03.04.23 4 A collaborative and co-adaptive process S.T. Mueller, R.R. Hoffman, W. Clancey, A. Emrey and G. Klein, Explanation in Human-AI Systems: A Literature Meta-Review, Synopsis of Key Ideas and Publications, and Bibliography for Explainable AI, arXiv, 2019. https://arxiv.org/abs/ 25 1902.01876
- 6. Trace-Based Explanation Shruthi Chari, Daniel M Gruen, Oshani Seneviratne, and Deborah L McGuinness. 2020. Directions for explainable knowledge-enabled systems. In Knowledge Graphs for eXplainable Arti fi cial Intelligence: Foundations, Applications and Challenges. IOS Press, 245–261.
- 7. Provenance is all you need! def load_data(…): input1 = pd.read_csv(…) input1 = input1[input1[‘attr’] > 10] input2 = pd.read_csv(…) return input1.join(input2, …) def featurise(…): return ColumnTransformer( [(‘categorical’), …, …) (‘numerical’), …, …)]) all_data = load_(data) train = all_data[all_data[‘date’] < …] test = all_data[all_data[‘date’] >= …] y_train = label_binarize(train[‘label’]) y_test = label_binarize(test[‘label’]) Pipeline = Pipeline([ (‘features’, featurise(…)), (‘learner’, KerasClassifier(…))]) model = pipeline.fit(train, y_train) quality = model.score(test, y_test) input1 σattr>10 input2 ⋈id=fk_id 1-hot πattr σdate<… σdate>=… scale πval concat FitClassifier Score Xtrain ytrain D1 D2 Xtest ytest id attr label date fk_id val πlabel binarize 1-hot πattr scale concat πlabel binarize πval 0, 1, 0, …, 0.23 1, 0, 0, …, 0.11 [ ] 0, 0, 1, …, 0.46 0, 1, 0, …, 0.17 [ ] {(1,1)} … {(1,...)} {(2,1)} ... {(2,...)} 0 1 [ ] 1 0 [ ] {(1,1), (2,3)} {(1,5), (2,7)} {(1,1), (2,3)} {(1,5), (2,7)} {(1,4), (2,7)} {(1,3), (2,1)} {(1,4), (2,7)} {(1,3), (2,1)} User-defined ML pipeline Extracted DAG representation Materialised artifacts with their provenance 1 2 3 Grafberger, et al. Data distribution debugging in ML pipelines. VLDBJ (2022).
- 8. Data Journeys - Importance of the entire pipeline - Data Journey: a multi- layered, semantic representation of a data processing activity, linked to the digital assets involved (code, components, data). - Can we provide a compact representation? Enrico Daga and Paul Groth. "Data journeys: Explaining AI work fl ows through abstraction." Semantic Web 15.4 (2024): 1057-1083.
- 9. DAG representation of a Random Forests Python Notebook
- 11. Results
- 12. 03.04.23 12 Initial user survey
- 13. Exploration to co-construction Katharina J Rohl fi ng et al. 2020. Explanation as a social practice: toward a conceptual framework for the social design of ai systems. IEEE Transactions on Cognitive and Developmental Systems, 13, 3, 717–728.
- 14. What would it look like for this system?
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- 17. XAI tools and techniques are available Sina Mohseni, Niloofar Zarei, and Eric D. Ragan. 2021. A Multidisciplinary Survey and Framework for Design and Evaluation of Explainable AI Systems. ACM Trans. Interact. Intell. Syst. 11, 3–4, Article 24 (December 2021), 45 pages. https://doi.org/10.1145/3387166
- 18. XAI - Evaluation of Explanations
- 20. ▫ Metrics [1]: ▿ functionally-grounded - metrics that do require human feedback and measure properties of the explanation (e.g. faithfulness - how accurately does the explanation correspond to the thing being explained); ▿ human-grounded metrics - metrics that involve human participation either through feedback, observation or proxy tasks (e.g. how interpretable is an explanation to an end user); ▿ application-grounded - metrics that measure explanations through their usage in an application (e.g. does the performance of the human-AI system improve on a downstream task); ▫ Challenges: ▿ Interactivity ▿ Many personas Evaluation of Explanations [1] Gesina Schwalbe and Bettina Finzel. A comprehensive taxonomy for explainable arti fi cial intelligence: a systematic survey of surveys on methods and concepts. Data Mining and Knowledge Discovery, 38(5):3043–3101, 2024.
- 21. Virtual Personas Suhong Moon, Marwa Abdulhai, Minwoo Kang, Joseph Suh, Widyadewi Soedarmadji, Eran Kohen Behar, and David Chan. 2024. Virtual Personas for Language Models via an Anthology of Backstories. In Proceedings of the 2024 Conference on Empirical Methods in Natural Language Processing, pages 19864–19897, Miami, Florida, USA. Association for Computational Linguistics.
- 22. Virtual Personas - Critique Lindia Tjuatja, Valerie Chen, Tongshuang Wu, Ameet Talwalkwar, Graham Neubig; Do LLMs Exhibit Human-like Response Biases? A Case Study in Survey Design. Transactions of the Association for Computational Linguistics 2024; 12 1011–1026. doi: https://doi.org/10.1162/ tacl_a_00685
- 23. LLMs as judges Zhen Li, Xiaohan Xu, Tao Shen, Can Xu, Jia-Chen Gu, Yuxuan Lai, Chongyang Tao, and Shuai Ma. 2024. Leveraging Large Language Models for NLG Evaluation: Advances and Challenges. In Proceedings of the 2024 Conference on Empirical Methods in Natural Language Processing, pages 16028–16045, Miami, Florida, USA. Association for Computational Linguistics.
- 24. LLMs as judges Lianmin Zheng, Wei-Lin Chiang, Ying Sheng, Siyuan Zhuang, Zhanghao Wu, Yonghao Zhuang, Zi Lin, Zhuohan Li, Dacheng Li, Eric P. Xing, Hao Zhang, Joseph E. Gonzalez, and Ion Stoica. 2023. Judging LLM-as-a-judge with MT-bench and Chatbot Arena. In Proceedings of the 37th International Conference on Neural Information Processing Systems (NIPS '23). Curran Associates Inc., Red Hook, NY, USA, Article 2020, 46595–46623.
- 26. 1. Clarity & Structure: Does the explanation flow logically? Is it easy to follow? 2. Depth & Completeness: Does the explanation o ff er su ffi cient detail without omitting crucial points? 3. Correctness & Fidelity: Are facts accurate, and does the explanation remain faithful to the original query/context? 4. Relevance & Focus: Does the content stay on-topic and address user queries directly? 5. Appropriateness for the Persona: Is the style/tone appropriate for the user’s persona (e.g., an AI engineer, business strategist, etc.)? 6. Transparency: Does the explanation clarify its reasoning or highlight uncertainties? 7. Engagement & Intuition: Is the conversation engaging, and does it address the user’s interests intuitively? 18.03.25 26 Criteria
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- 29. Steps Forward • A persona database • Validation of LLM-as-a-judge • Multi-modal provenance explanations • Leverage detailed provenance information with visual and interactive outputs • Interactive AI agents • Develop agents that can illustrate, gesture to diagrams, and walk users through data fl ow across AI system components in real-time • Enhanced provenance systems: • Implement retrieval augmented generation over provenance stores • Integrate LLMs directly into provenance collection and preparation processes • Appropriate abstraction levels for user interaction • Interactive explanation environments
- 32. Complex Use Cases & Common Evaluation Pitfalls - Law - Clinical Trials - Science - Missing or Incorrect Ground Truth Data - Data Leakage - Confirmation Bias - Deployment mismatch
- 33. Desiderata for Evaluation Approaches 1. be able to evaluate such multifaceted and complex outputs 2. no ground truth is available 3. run in a continuous manner 4. cope with changes in outputs 5. efficiently make use of human effort 6. readily applied to new problems, tasks and domains with a minimal amount of effort 7. cope with variation in the tailored outputs
- 34. De fi ning performance in terms of explanation quality AI System performance: Given a set of tasks, and corresponding outputs and their explanations created by an AI system. AI System performance is the aggregation of the quality of the explanations. Claim: By evaluating through explanations we cover the desiderata on the prior slide
- 35. Design and Development objective, task, and context Explanation Dimension Selection AI System Development Deployment AI System Execution execution results AI system Explanation Generation execution traces Evaluation explanation Explanation Assessment dimensions and metrics evaluation result
- 36. Conclusion • AI systems build explanations together with users. It’s a process. • We need better ways to evaluate such processes • LLMs as proxy personas and LLMs as judges may allow for extensive and reproducible evaluations of explanations. • Explanation as evaluation for AI Systems Paul Groth | @pgroth | pgroth.com | indelab.org