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Adjust AC appeal vote threshold based on participation #886
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This mirrors the "requisite member vote" process from the W3C bylaws, and avoids making momentous decisions based on a slim majority in vote with low participation. See w3c#886
This mirrors the "requisite member vote" process from the W3C bylaws, and avoids making momentous decisions based on a slim majority in vote with low participation. See w3c#886
This mirrors the "requisite member vote" process from the W3C bylaws, and avoids making momentous decisions based on a slim majority in vote with low participation. See w3c#886
This mirrors the "requisite member vote" process from the W3C bylaws, and avoids making momentous decisions based on a slim majority in vote with low participation. See w3c#886
This would look something like this: 7bc5058 |
This mirrors the "requisite member vote" process from the W3C bylaws, and avoids making momentous decisions based on a slim majority in vote with low participation. Also includes a minimum quorum. See https://www.w3.org/2024/07/15-ab-minutes.html#r02 See w3c#886
From the AB:
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This mirrors the "requisite member vote" process from the W3C bylaws, and avoids making momentous decisions based on a slim majority in vote with low participation. Also includes a minimum quorum. See https://www.w3.org/2024/07/15-ab-minutes.html#r02 See w3c#886
This mirrors the "requisite member vote" process from the W3C bylaws, and avoids making momentous decisions based on a slim majority in vote with low participation. Also includes a minimum quorum. See https://www.w3.org/2024/07/15-ab-minutes.html#r02 See #886 Co-authored-by: Chris NeedhamCo-authored-by: Ted Thibodeau Jr
I disagree with this decision. It's needlessly complicated and it results in non-linearity that encourages odd voting patterns. |
Having looked at the bylaws more closely, I want to revise my statement above. Why would this not instead refer to the bylaws. The change in #901 sets up different thresholds, where it seems like the rationale was to have the rules be congruent. A reference to the "Requisite Member Vote" rules in the bylaws (which fail to set a minimum threshold, so a single member could affirm a decision) would also benefit from updates to that definition. |
This issue has been closed on the basis of an AB resolution. The Process CG follows AB instructions when they exist (and refers to the AB for resolution of any non-consensual situation), so if you would like this question to be revisited, you need to ask the AB. https://github.com/w3c/AB-memberonly/issues would be the right place. With that said, here are some further thoughts about the substance of your comment:
I agree it is non-linear / discontinuous. (I too would have preferred a continuous function, but mathematical elegance was not he main criterion followed by the laywers who drafted this concept for the bylaws.) I disagree that this is exploitable and encourages odd/strategic voting. Those voting against a proposal might feel like they should refrain from voting if (a) the vote is currently being rejected (b) we are nearing the vote count that would take us beyond the next threshold and which would lower the proportions of yes votes needed to make the vote pass, and (c) they could be confident that others will refrain from voting too, so that no one else pushes us over the threshold. But these 3 things aren't knowable, so voters cannot adjust their behavior accordingly even if they wanted to (in particular, even if (a) and (b) could be knowable in an election where voters are given a high level of transparency onto ongoing votes, they still cannot know how many others will vote after them).
Maintaining minimum coupling between The bylaws and the Process has been a deliberate decision from the very first iteration of the bylaws, for a variety of reasons, including:
All in all, even if we want similarities to keep things simple, avoiding normative dependencies between the two as much as possible is a deliberate choice, and a good one I think. |
(Split from #882).
To avoid making momentous decisions based on a slim majority in vote with low participation, the W3C's bylaws have provisions for what they call "Requisite Member Vote" where decisions are confirmed by :
I think it would be reasonable to adopt the same concept for AC appeals, which currently can overturn decisions via a 50% majority without quorum or any other consideration for the level of participation.
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